The 1.12.0 retest on #205 reported it still broken in two shapes: a wheel that did nothing at all on Firefox/macOS (while Fn+Up paged back through intact text), and iPhone history that went back a little, repeated blocks and got worse the further up it went. Both come from a Claude pane's LOCAL buffer being hollow: tmux keeps no history for a repaint-mode pane (history_size 0), so xterm holds only replayed repaint frames. 1. The scroll-to-top full=1 re-pull now refuses a DOWNGRADE. It resets the terminal and rewrites it from the capture, which is a win when tmux holds more than the browser, but for a repaint-mode pane that capture is roughly ONE frame and the rewrite deleted history mid-scroll. Measured A/B on a live pane, same gesture: guard off collapses 341 rows to 42, guard on preserves all 341. _replayWouldShrinkBuffer() estimates the capture's rendered rows (escapes stripped, capture-pane -J re-wrapping accounted for) and skips the rewrite when it is more than one screen short; a refused session's cooldown goes from 4s to 60s so a hollow pane stops re-fetching megabytes. 2. A false forwarding gate on a Claude session no longer means a dead gesture. Under a triple guard (claude mode, gate false, baseY 0), wheel and touch travel becomes coalesced PageUp/PageDown through the same 40ms queue as the SGR reports, at half a screen of travel per page key. Shift is excluded: it keeps meaning "local scrollback". 3. getClaudeCliVersion() no longer caches FAILURE. It stored null on any exception and guarded on !== undefined, so one timed-out or PATH-starved probe at the first Claude session start disabled wheel-forwarding for every Claude session until the server restarted, which fits a report of breakage on phone, tablet and laptop at once. Success is still cached for the process lifetime; failures retry with a 1/2/4 up to 15min backoff, and the policy is a pure function so the semantics are testable without spawning claude. 4. The terminalWheelLocalScrollback footgun is handled by pairing rather than scoping: the setting keeps meaning exactly what it says, and fix 2 catches the case where "local" is empty. The App Settings tooltip now says to leave it off for Claude/Codex sessions. 5. _logScrollRouting() prints one line per session per distinct decision: forward-sgr / page-keys / local-scrollback / repull-refused-downgrade, with mode, cliVersion, the opt-out state, mouse tracking and local scrollback depth. #205 ran two rounds of remote guesswork over questions that line answers directly. Verified end to end against a real isolated instance (own data dir and tmux socket) with real wheel events: forwarding still sends SGR reports, the opt-out now sends real PageUp/PageDown where the wheel was dead, a tab-switch collapse (401 rows to 44) is still fully recovered by the re-pull (back to 401), and a seeded 341-row Claude buffer survives the same gesture that destroys it with the guard disabled. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
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Scrollback fix plan (issue #205)
Status: IMPLEMENTED on fix/scrollback-shell-alt-screen (2026-08-07), with one deliberate
divergence from the recommendation below. Kept for the diagnosis record; the measured evidence
behind it is docs/scrollback-issues-analysis.md, and the mechanisms as shipped are documented
in docs/architecture-invariants.md (§ Full-scrollback replay, § Terminal scrollback: strip
flavors and wheel/touch forwarding).
What shipped vs. what this doc proposed:
- Bug A (deltaMode): implemented as specified (
_wheelScrollLines()normalizes line/page/pixel units, Shift-axis trap kept). - Bug B (shell scrollback): implemented via the NARROW alt-screen strip for tmux-backed
shell/opencode/antigravity plus the scroll-to-top
full=1re-pull, NOT the recommended approach (a)tmux mouse on. The measurements in the analysis doc showed the alt buffer comes from tmux's own client-sidesmcupat attach (tmux never forwards a pane program's alt-screen toggles), so stripping that one sequence fixes both symptoms with no selection tradeoff, keeps vim/less/htop untouched, and the re-pull also covers the repaint-burst history loss thatmouse onwould not have addressed. - Invariant change: the "viewport-at-bottom gate stays" invariant below was deliberately DROPPED for forwarding modes: a repaint-mode CLI keeps no real terminal scrollback, so the gate pinned users to a buffer of stale frames whenever the viewport parked off-bottom. Forwarding now snaps to bottom first; Shift+wheel and the opt-out setting keep local scrollback reachable. Touch forwards through the same gate (the mobile half of the fix).
- Finding 5 (remote probe): implemented (
probeRemoteCliVersionover ssh, deferred at session start, same login-shell wrapper as the launch).
RETEST FAILED (2026-08-07, after v1.12.0 shipped) — analysis round 2
mtiller retested on 1.12.0 and reports it is NOT fixed (issue #205 comment, 2026-08-07 12:12 UTC; issue reopened same day with clarifying questions: mouse vs trackpad, Shift+scroll behavior, Claude vs shell session on the phone, and an iOS full-tab-kill to rule out stale JS). Two failure signatures, now analyzed against the SHIPPED 1.12.0 code (not the pre-fix code):
- iPhone Safari (Claude session assumed): touch scrollback goes back only a limited amount and sometimes REPEATS blocks of text; unreliable.
- Firefox on macOS (mouse): wheel does NOTHING at all, while Fn+Up (= PageUp) pages back through INTACT text.
Ruled out by code reading
- deltaMode mishandling:
_wheelScrollLinesFloatnormalizes line/page/pixel units correctly; a Firefox line-mode notch yields ±3 lines. Not the bug. - Ephemeral transport:
_sendInputEphemeral(app.js) has a POST fallback when WS is down. - Service worker: sw.js is network-first with cache fallback; it serves stale JS only when the
fetch FAILS (flaky mobile connection can do this — relevant to "unreliable" on the phone,
and the fixed
CACHE_NAME = 'codeman-v1'never invalidates that offline copy).
The load-bearing observation: PageUp works, the wheel does not
Fn+Up is a KEYBOARD event: xterm encodes PageUp and Claude pages its own transcript (intact text proves Claude-side history is fine and the PTY input path is fine). The wheel path is the capture-phase handler, and for a Claude session it has exactly two branches:
- Forwarding branch (
_shouldForwardWheelToApptrue): snap-to-bottom + SGR reports. If this branch ran, the user would see the same paging motion Fn+Up produces. They see nothing. - Local branch (gate false):
_smoothScrollByover xterm's local buffer. For a Claude pane in repaint mode, tmux keepshistory_size≈0, so?full=1returns roughly one frame: the local buffer is structurally HOLLOW, the top-of-buffer re-pull recovers nothing, and the wheel looks completely dead. This matches every observed detail on Firefox.
So the working hypothesis is that mtiller's sessions evaluate the gate FALSE. The gate
(_shouldForwardWheelToApp) has exactly four false-paths worth checking, in likelihood order:
terminalWheelLocalScrollbackopt-out is ON. Plausible: a user whose scrolling was broken on 1.11.x may well have toggled "Wheel scrolls local history" while trying to fix it. On 1.12.0 that setting now routes the wheel to a hollow local buffer = dead wheel on desktop AND the stale-repaint-frames experience on the phone (see below). Ask, or check what the setting does on their export.cliVersionmissing — CONFIRMED BUG, independent of whether it is mtiller's:getClaudeCliVersion()(utils/claude-cli-resolver.ts:124-148) caches its result process-wide including FAILURE: on any exception it sets_claudeVersion = null, and the guard is!== undefined, so a single failed/timed-out probe (5sEXEC_TIMEOUT_MS; PATH under systemd/launchd; transient fs hiccup) at the FIRST Claude session start disables wheel forwarding for every Claude session until the server restarts. Fix: cache success permanently, but let failure retry (retry on next call, or a short negative-cache TTL). Note that mtiller sees identical breakage on phone + iPad + laptop, which points at a SERVER-side/session-side cause exactly like this (cliVersion is shared by all devices) rather than anything browser-specific.- Claude Code genuinely < 2.1.187 on their machine: gate false BY DESIGN, but the resulting UX is a dead-end (no local history to fall back on).
- mouseTrackingMode non-none (a DECSET leaked past the strip, e.g. emitted before attach or
split across chunks in a way the carry missed): would also kill the container handler via
the early return. Least likely, checkable via
terminal.modes.mouseTrackingModein console.
The iPhone symptoms fit the same gate-false story
Touch with gate false = local scrollLines() over whatever repaint frames accumulated:
"repeats blocks of text" is literally what a buffer of successive overlapping repaint frames
looks like; "limited amount" is its thinness; "unreliable" is burst-dependence (finding 2)
PLUS the new re-pull being actively DESTRUCTIVE for repaint panes: _maybeRefetchFullHistory
does _resetTerminalForReplay() then writes the fetched capture, and when that capture is
one frame (Claude pane, history_size≈0) it REPLACES a multi-frame buffer with less than the
user had, mid-scroll. Stale pre-1.12 JS on the phone (suspended Safari tab) remains possible
until they confirm the tab kill.
Fix directions, ranked
- Make the re-pull refuse downgrades (
_maybeRefetchFullHistory, app.js): if the fetched capture would yield FEWER buffer rows than currently present, skip the reset+rewrite and keep the richer buffer (optionally cache-mark the session "re-pull useless"). Small, safe, kills the "got worse after scrolling to top" class. Consider skipping the re-pull entirely for forwarding-capable modes where tmux keeps no history. - Rescue the gate-false Claude dead-end with PageUp forwarding: when mode is
claude, the gate is false, AND the local buffer has no scrollback (baseY === 0), translate wheel lines into coalesced PageUp/PageDown key sends (mtiller just proved Claude pages correctly on PageUp even on their version). Zero regression risk under that triple guard: sessions with real local history keep local scrolling; only the currently-dead path changes. Caveat: older Claude menus may react to PageUp; acceptable against "completely dead". - Audit
getClaudeCliVersion()failure caching (utils/claude-cli-resolver.ts): a cached empty probe must retry (with backoff), not poison the process. - Guard the opt-out setting's footgun: if
terminalWheelLocalScrollbackis ON for a repaint-mode CLI session, local history is hollow; either scope the setting's effect to modes with real local scrollback, or pair it with fix 2's PageUp fallback so it still scrolls SOMETHING. - Add a one-line gate diagnostic: log (once per session, console) WHY the wheel chose
local vs forward:
{mode, cliVersion, optOut, trackingMode}. The #205 thread is now two rounds deep on guesswork a single console line would have answered.
What shipped for round 2 (branch fix/scrollback-205-round2)
All five directions above, implemented as ranked:
- Downgrade guard —
_replayWouldShrinkBuffer()(terminal-ui.js) estimates the rows a capture will occupy (ANSI stripped,capture-pane -Jre-wrapping accounted for) and_maybeRefetchFullHistory(app.js) skips the reset+rewrite when that is more than one screen short of what xterm already holds. A refused session goes on_fullHistoryRepullUseless, which raises its re-pull cooldown from 4s to 60s so a hollow pane stops re-fetching. Measured A/B on a live Claude pane, same gesture, same buffer: guard off → 341 rows collapse to 42 and every seeded row is gone; guard on → 341 rows preserved. The tab-switch recovery it must not break still runs (shell buffer 401 → 44 on a tab switch → 401 again after scrolling to the top). - PageUp/PageDown fallback —
_maybePageCliTranscript()translates wheel/touch travel into coalesced\x1b[5~/\x1b[6~under the triple guard (claude mode, forwarding gate false,baseY === 0), through the same 40ms queue as the SGR reports. Half a screen of travel per page: the page key always jumps a whole screen, and a 1:1 mapping was unusably slow with a discrete wheel. Shift is excluded — it keeps meaning "local scrollback". Verified live: opt-out ON on a Claude session sends real PageUp/PageDown to the PTY where the wheel previously did nothing. - Probe caching —
getClaudeCliVersion()no longer caches failure. Success is kept for the process lifetime; a failed probe retries with a 1/2/4…15min backoff. The cache policy is a pure function (resolveClaudeCliVersion) so the retry semantics are unit-testable without spawningclaude. The VITEST short-circuit now records nothing, where before it wrote a permanent null. - Opt-out footgun — handled by pairing rather than by scoping: the setting keeps meaning exactly what it says (the wheel goes local), and fix 2 catches the case where "local" is empty. Scoping the setting away from repaint-mode CLIs would have silently overridden an explicit user choice. The App Settings tooltip now says to leave it off for Claude/Codex.
- Diagnostic —
_logScrollRouting()prints one line per session per distinct decision:[scroll] <id> → forward-sgr|page-keys|local-scrollback|repull-refused-downgrade (mode=…, cliVersion=…, localScrollbackOptOut=…, mouseTracking=…, localScrollbackRows=…). That single line answers every open question in the list below.
Still unanswered by code alone: whether mtiller's Claude Code is genuinely older than
2.1.187 (false-path 3), and whether the iPhone was running stale JS. The diagnostic makes
both self-reporting, so the retest ask is now "open the console and paste the [scroll] line".
What to get from mtiller (some already asked)
- Shift+scroll behavior on Firefox (distinguishes hollow-local from handler-not-firing).
claude --versionon the Mac (decides false-paths 2 vs 3).- App Settings → Input → "Wheel scrolls local history" state (false-path 1).
- iPhone: Claude or shell session, and whether a full tab kill changes anything.
- Browser console:
app.terminalUi?.terminal?.modes?.mouseTrackingMode(false-path 4).
Original plan follows.
Reports
- Issue #205 (https://github.com/Ark0N/Codeman/issues/205), OPEN:
- jonocodes (author, 2026-08-03): SHELL session. Host Mac M4, brew tmux. On Android, touch-scrolling the terminal does nothing. On desktop, the mouse wheel cycles shell command history (acts like Up/Down arrows) instead of scrolling the screen.
- mtiller (comment, 2026-08-06): "similar issue just with scrolling backward to see agent output. This is with Firefox on MacOS." (Claude session implied.)
- Reddit r/selfhosted comment
p21x6tsby mmtiller (= mtiller on GitHub): scrolling broken enough across phone/iPad/laptop that they fall back to Claude's own remote-control feature. Churn-risk user who otherwise loves the product; fixing this has promo value beyond the bug itself.
How scrolling works today (read this before touching anything)
Three independent paths, all in src/web/public/terminal-ui.js unless noted:
- Desktop wheel (container
wheellistener, ~line 421): ALWAYSpreventDefault()s, then either- forwards synthetic SGR wheel reports to the app (
_sendSyntheticSgrWheel, coalesced every 40ms, fire-and-forget) when_shouldForwardWheelToApp(ev)(~line 2823) passes: no Shift held, opt-out settingterminalWheelLocalScrollbackoff, xtermmouseTrackingMode === 'none', session mode isclaudewithcliVersion >= 2.1.187orcodex, and viewport is at bottom; - otherwise scrolls xterm's LOCAL scrollback via
terminal.scrollLines(lines). linescomes from_wheelScrollLines(ev)(~line 2818):delta / 25, i.e. it assumes PIXEL deltas.- NOTE: xterm.js's own internal wheel handler sits on an element INSIDE the container, so it runs FIRST (bubble order) and is not suppressed by the container's
preventDefault.
- forwards synthetic SGR wheel reports to the app (
- Touch (touchstart/move/end, ~lines 441-585): converts touch deltas to
terminal.scrollLines()with momentum. Touch is ALWAYS local-scrollback, never forwarded to the app. Tap-to-position (touchend, ~line 533) is separate and already handles both mouse-tracking-on and server-strip cases. - Server-side strip (
_handleTerminalOutput,src/session.ts:1384): for modes inisAltScreenStripMode()(src/session.ts:179=codex | claude | gemini), strips alt-screen switches (?47/?1047/?1049), scrollback erase (3J), and mouse-tracking DECSETs (?1000-?1007except?1004focus) so content stays in xterm's normal buffer with scrollback intact. Includes a chunk-boundary carry so split sequences can't leak.shellandopencode(andantigravity) are deliberately EXCLUDED: arbitrary shell programs (vim/less/htop) legitimately need the alt screen. There is a parity copy of this strip on the replay path (src/web/routes/session-routes.ts, ~line 1697) and a frontend parity check_sessionUsesServerMouseStrip()(terminal-ui.js ~line 2751). All three must stay in sync. - Related: full-scrollback replay (
GET .../terminal?full=1on first buffer load) fills xterm local scrollback; client scrollback is hardcoded 50k (DEFAULT_SCROLLBACK, constants.js) vs tmux 100k.
Diagnosis
Bug A: Firefox wheel deltas (mtiller's desktop case)
_wheelScrollLines() divides by 25 assuming WheelEvent.deltaY is pixels (deltaMode === 0, Chrome/Safari behavior). Firefox commonly fires deltaMode === 1 (LINE units, deltaY around 1-3 per notch), so Math.round(3/25) = 0 and the || ±1 fallback yields 1 line per event. With a discrete mouse wheel that is 1 line per notch: scrolling feels dead/broken. This hits BOTH the local-scroll path and the forwarded path, since both use the same function.
Fix: normalize by ev.deltaMode in _wheelScrollLines():
deltaMode 0(pixels): current behavior,delta / 25.deltaMode 1(lines): use the delta directly (round, keep sign fallback).deltaMode 2(pages):delta * terminal.rows(or a sane page size). Keep the existing Shift-axis trap intact: on macOS trackpads Shift+two-finger scroll arrives as a HORIZONTAL wheel (deltaX carries the magnitude, deltaY ~0); that's why the function reads deltaX when Shift is held (issue #154). Don't lose it.
Verify: don't trust this diagnosis blindly. First reproduce in real Firefox on macOS and log deltaMode/deltaY (Firefox trackpad input can arrive as pixels; external mouse as lines). Also confirm the session's cliVersion probe succeeded (a failed probe disables forwarding entirely, which would point elsewhere). Unit-test by dispatching synthetic WheelEvents with explicit deltaMode values; a Playwright firefox project pass is the end-to-end check.
Bug B: shell mode has NO working scrollback at all (jonocodes)
Chain: shell mode is excluded from the alt-screen strip (correctly) → tmux attaches on the alternate screen → xterm's alt buffer has zero scrollback. Consequences:
- Wheel: xterm's own internal wheel handler runs first and, in the alt buffer, converts wheel ticks into Up/Down arrow keys (alternateScroll behavior). The shell receives arrows → command history cycles. That is jonocodes' exact desktop symptom. The container handler's
scrollLines()afterwards is a no-op (no scrollback in alt buffer). - Touch: the touch handler's
scrollLines()is equally a no-op → "scrolling does nothing" on Android. Exact symptom two. - The real history exists the whole time in tmux's 100k-line buffer; nothing exposes it.
Fix, recommended approach (a): enable tmux mouse on for shell sessions.
- Server-side, set
mouse onscoped to shell sessions' tmux sessions (tmux set-option -t <session> mouse onat create + on attach of recovered sessions). Do NOT set it globally on the socket: claude/codex/gemini sessions rely on the DECSET strip and must not change. - What this buys, all natively: tmux enables mouse tracking on the outer terminal → xterm
mouseTrackingModegoes non-none → the container handler stands down (line ~2830 check) and xterm's own encoder forwards wheel as SGR reports → tmux scrolls its OWN copy-mode history on wheel-up, auto-exits at bottom. The alt-scroll arrow conversion disappears too (tracking mode takes precedence). Desktop is fully fixed with no new endpoints. - Touch: still needs one small client change: in the touchmove path, when the active session is
shellANDmouseTrackingMode !== 'none', convert accumulated lines to_sendSyntheticSgrWheel(x, y, lines)instead ofscrollLines(). The 40ms coalescing already prevents the tmux process storm (each send is a tmux send-keys server-side; unbatched flicks would spawn dozens of processes: this constraint is documented at_sendSyntheticSgrWheel, do not bypass it). - Selection tradeoff to verify: with tracking on, xterm hands drag events to tmux instead of doing local browser selection. Shift+drag still does local selection (xterm shift-override). Verify this UX on desktop before shipping; if it's unacceptable, fall back to approach (b).
- Also verify: vim/less/htop inside the shell still behave (they'll now receive real mouse events via tmux, generally an improvement); remote shell sessions run tmux on the REMOTE host (
tmux -L codeman-remote) and need the same option set there if remote shells are in scope (fine to defer, note it in the changeset if skipped).
Fallback approach (b), only if (a)'s selection tradeoff fails testing: keep mouse off; when a shell session is in the alt buffer, have the client send scroll intents to a small server endpoint that drives tmux copy-mode -e -t <pane> + send-keys -X -N <n> scroll-up/down. Preserves selection semantics exactly, but needs a new endpoint, server-side batching, AND suppression of xterm's native alt-scroll arrow conversion (capture-phase wheel listener with stopPropagation, or attachCustomWheelEventHandler if the vendored xterm version has it). More moving parts; (a) should be tried first.
Not acceptable: adding shell to isAltScreenStripMode(). vim/less/htop need the alt screen; that exclusion is deliberate and documented.
Bug C: mtiller's phone/iPad case — UNREPRODUCED, do not guess
Touch is always-local by design, and Claude sessions keep content in the normal buffer (strip), so touch scrollback "should" work there. Before coding anything: build a repro matrix (iPhone Safari / iPad Safari / Android Chrome × claude / shell) on the current release. Plausible candidates if it does reproduce: auto-scroll-to-bottom fighting user scrolls (_noteTerminalUserScroll, ~line 2004), or they were in shell sessions on mobile too (then Bug B covers it). Ask mtiller on #205 for session mode + Codeman version if the matrix comes up clean.
Invariants the implementation MUST respect
- Shift+wheel always scrolls local scrollback; the trackpad Shift-axis handling from #154 stays.
- The
terminalWheelLocalScrollbackopt-out setting keeps working (pins plain wheel to local). - The viewport-at-bottom gate stays: once the user scrolled up locally, wheel stays local until they return to bottom.
- 40ms SGR coalescing: never send per-event writes to the server.
- Strip parity triangle:
session.tslive strip ↔session-routes.tsreplay strip ↔_sessionUsesServerMouseStrip()in the frontend. If you touch mode lists, update all three. - Don't add
opencode/antigravityto any strip/forward list; their TUI wheel behavior is unverified (documented at_shouldForwardWheelToApp). - The chunk-boundary sequence carry in
_handleTerminalOutputmust not be weakened.
Testing (per repo rules)
npm test -- test/<file>.test.tsonly; never barenpm test. New test ports 3150+, never 3000.- Browser-test traps (documented in CLAUDE.md Testing): drive input/scroll through real events (
page.mouse.wheel, real touch), not app internals; headless Chromium reportsisTouchDevice()false even withhasTouch: true; assert on real state (xterm viewport position,tmux -L codeman capture-pane), not HTTP 200. - Shell-mode E2E: create a throwaway shell session,
seq 1 500, then (1) wheel up on desktop shows earlier lines, not history cycling; (2) touch-scroll on a phone shows earlier lines; (3)vim+lessstill enter/leave the alt screen cleanly; (4) Shift+drag still selects text. - Firefox E2E: Playwright
firefoxproject, wheel over a Claude session's finished output, assert viewport moved more than 1 line per notch. - End-to-end against the REAL environment before claiming done (standing user rule). w1/w2/w3 tmux sessions are the user's live sessions: never send input to them; create your own throwaway session and DELETE it by exact id when done.
Related observation (not a reported bug, worth a look while in there)
The claude --version probe that feeds the forwarding gate runs only for local and docker sessions (src/session.ts:1490 gates !this._remote; docker handled at :1507). Remote Claude sessions therefore never get cliVersion and silently keep local-only wheel. Harmless (local scrollback works) but inconsistent; cheap to fix by probing over ssh, or document as intended.
Rollout
- Bug A (deltaMode) is small and independent: can ship alone as a patch.
- Bug B (shell scrollback) is the headline fix for #205: patch or minor per COM flow.
- After deploy + verification: comment on #205 (what was fixed, what needs their retest), then reply to the Reddit comment
p21x6tswith the release version. Both reporters gave environment details; address them specifically.